wsmcasey · Oct 24, 2005, 03:24 PM // 15:24

I like my lizard, he's pretty fast. I want a uw spider, but need to talk my guild into helping me get it. lol

Valerius · Oct 24, 2005, 05:18 PM // 17:18

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I think it was lvl 11 was the first change, and lvl 15 was the final change?

yeah that's correct

Diablo??? · Oct 24, 2005, 05:36 PM // 17:36

it's also really painful to give up a lvl 20 pet, i had to give 2 of them up.
its like losing a child.. ;_;

Yichi · Oct 24, 2005, 05:45 PM // 17:45

I currently have the snow wolf. Hes ok but the howling gets annoying. When i get to the desert im going to get a lizard. although i dont like the idea of havign to lvl another pet so i might keep my wolf afterall *shrug* dunno yet

Epinephrine · Oct 24, 2005, 05:47 PM // 17:47

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Originally Posted by kawaii_bat

I *am* a beastmaster and I actively use my pet and pet attacks in conjunction with my other attacks (Hakf my bar are pet skills). So it doesn't just become *hearty* because it doesn't deal damage etc... It becomes Hearty because it's level 15. And I have a pretty good hunch it'll become Dire at level 20 thus becoming bigger than regular pets (Dire = Big) and then Elder at level 25.

Normal-----Playful(lvl11)-----Hearty(lvl15)-----Dire(lvl20)-----Elder(lvl25)

Have you actually played the game? Pets don't level past 20. Neither do players. Unless you are implying that the hidden leveling that players get for skillpoints also happens for pets and alters them, which I doubt.

a_scrawny_gnoll01 · Oct 24, 2005, 05:54 PM // 17:54

For the record: spider sucks. It's too small and does not body block worth crap. Just get a bear, as they are better (and use brutal mauling), thus dealing more damage than a spider could.

Yes, I changed from a hearty bear to a spider, and am regretting it. Time to train a new one.

Valerius · Oct 24, 2005, 05:58 PM // 17:58

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For the record: spider sucks. It's too small and does not body block worth crap. Just get a bear, as they are better (and use brutal mauling), thus dealing more damage than a spider could.

brutal mauling doesn't deal any more extra dmg then one of it's normal attacks... it's just there for looks

lofblad · Oct 24, 2005, 06:08 PM // 18:08

There are Elder Wolfs in Southern Shiverpeaks at level 15 if you don't have the time/energy to train a new pet all the way from level 5.

Look for "Thul the Bull", a ranger boss north of Copperhammer Mines (tip:check the map at xennon's elite skill site). I saw two level 15 Elder Wolfs there the other day.

boxterduke · Oct 24, 2005, 06:19 PM // 18:19

I did not read the whole thread but I got me a black widow.
I had the pre sear lynx for the longest time then got a lizard and then a bear but not I have the black widow.
Pet name: Shelob

Rancour · Oct 24, 2005, 08:12 PM // 20:12

I got a Snow Wolf from the Northern Shiverpeaks and I've been using him sorta on/off. Now he's level 15 but how can I tell what he turned into? I gave him a name so I can't tell. Also, is there any way of CHANGING what he turned into or atleast training a new one to become something specific?

Jenosavel · Oct 24, 2005, 08:18 PM // 20:18

Before I begin, thanks to Valerius, Ix Chel, and Epinephrine for backing me up.

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Originally Posted by kawaii_bat

My Boar evolved from normal to Playful(level11) it got bigger than before and then from playful to Hearty(level15) and it didn't get any bigger than it was before. The logic that a pet becoming bigger because it gets the hearty evolution is flawed.

Well, Valerius is backing me up on this one. However, since you probably still don't believe me, I will go take those screen shots. However, I do have a life, so leveling up the required number of pets may take a few days.

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I *am* a beastmaster and I actively use my pet and pet attacks in conjunction with my other attacks

In conjuction with the rest of your post, this really made me laugh. Thanks, I needed that.

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(Hakf my bar are pet skills).

When I leveled up my Dires, over half of my bar was pet skills. When I leveled up my Elders, over half of my bar was pet skills. Guess what? When I leveled up my Hearties, over half of my bar was pet skills. Which skills those happen to be, what kind of Beast Mastery stat is backing them up, what other skills you have on your bar, and how you spent your remaining attribute points all come into play.

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So it doesn't just become *hearty* because it doesn't deal damage etc...

Actually, you're right, though you're still misunderstanding things. The pet doesn't become Hearty just because it doesn't deal damage. It becomes Hearty because it doesn't deal considerable damage in comparison to what you're dealing yourself. So you can have half of your bar filled up with Beast Mastery skills, only one Marksmanship attack, and equal attributes of Beast Mastery and Marksmanship, and you'll get a Hearty. Sure your pet is dealing some nice damage, but so are you.

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It becomes Hearty because it's level 15.

Actually, you've got a bit of a logical fallacy here. It becomes Hearty at level 15, not because it turned level 15. See the difference? Just because two things happen at the same time doesn't mean one caused the other. A pet could also turn Elder or Dire at level 15, which completely shoots your assumption that: because level 15, therefore Hearty.

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And I have a pretty good hunch it'll become Dire at level 20

And you'd be unfortunately disappointed then.

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thus becoming bigger than regular pets (Dire = Big)

As I said, I'll get you those screen shots proving that Dire pets are the same size as level 5 ones.

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and then Elder at level 25.

As Ix Chel was so kind to point out... pet's can't level beyond 20. Pretty impossible for Elder pets to exist according to your rules. Yet somehow, people have Elder pets. I think you should be able to realize what that means.

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If you can really prove a corrolation between evolution then I'll be looking for the text saying:
Pet's name has been reset. ---in green on your screenshots before I beleive any of your: you must use pet attacks more often for it to become playful, you must not use pet attacks for him to become hearty etc...that's pet evolution b*llsh*t.

I don't know which is worse, that you say it's my b*llsh*t when many people can back me up, or the fact that you completely didn't understand my claims in the first place. You get a Playful pet and a Hearty pet via the same exact play style, dealing more damage yourself than your pet. The only difference between the two types is that the Playful is the level 11 iteration, and the Hearty is the level 15 one.

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Originally Posted by Rancour

I got a Snow Wolf from the Northern Shiverpeaks and I've been using him sorta on/off. Now he's level 15 but how can I tell what he turned into? I gave him a name so I can't tell. Also, is there any way of CHANGING what he turned into or atleast training a new one to become something specific?

Use /namepet alone to reset your pet's name and see its evolution. After level 15 you can't change the evolution anymore, but you can get a new pet and try your luck again. Check out the Ultimate Pet Guide thread in the Community Works section of the forums for all the information you could want on that.

Oct 24, 2005, 03:24 PM // 15:24	#21
wsmcasey Jungle Guide Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Right behind you. Guild: HeRo Profession: W/Rt	I like my lizard, he's pretty fast. I want a uw spider, but need to talk my guild into helping me get it. lol

Oct 24, 2005, 05:36 PM // 17:36	#23
Diablo??? Forge Runner Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Seattle Guild: SPQR Profession: N/R	it's also really painful to give up a lvl 20 pet, i had to give 2 of them up. its like losing a child.. ;_;

Oct 24, 2005, 05:45 PM // 17:45	#24
Yichi Furnace Stoker Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match... Guild: Dark Alley [dR]	I currently have the snow wolf. Hes ok but the howling gets annoying. When i get to the desert im going to get a lizard. although i dont like the idea of havign to lvl another pet so i might keep my wolf afterall shrug dunno yet

Oct 24, 2005, 05:54 PM // 17:54	#26
a_scrawny_gnoll01 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Guild: lfg, invite me. HA! no need to post in guild forum. Profession: W/Mo	For the record: spider sucks. It's too small and does not body block worth crap. Just get a bear, as they are better (and use brutal mauling), thus dealing more damage than a spider could. Yes, I changed from a hearty bear to a spider, and am regretting it. Time to train a new one.

Oct 24, 2005, 06:08 PM // 18:08	#28
lofblad Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: Rise of the Forsaken Profession: W/R	There are Elder Wolfs in Southern Shiverpeaks at level 15 if you don't have the time/energy to train a new pet all the way from level 5. Look for "Thul the Bull", a ranger boss north of Copperhammer Mines (tip:check the map at xennon's elite skill site). I saw two level 15 Elder Wolfs there the other day.

Oct 24, 2005, 06:19 PM // 18:19	#29
boxterduke Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Walking the ruins of Ascalon Guild: DVDF Profession: Me/	I did not read the whole thread but I got me a black widow. I had the pre sear lynx for the longest time then got a lizard and then a bear but not I have the black widow. Pet name: Shelob

Oct 24, 2005, 08:12 PM // 20:12	#30
Rancour Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Camp Rancor (Rancour :D) Guild: I'm a free spirit (that's not what the guild is called, I just am) Profession: W/R	I got a Snow Wolf from the Northern Shiverpeaks and I've been using him sorta on/off. Now he's level 15 but how can I tell what he turned into? I gave him a name so I can't tell. Also, is there any way of CHANGING what he turned into or atleast training a new one to become something specific?